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Technical Committee on Noise
of the Acoustical Society of America (ASA)

138th Meeting Minutes - November 3, 1999

Minutes ASA Technical Committee on Noise-MINUTES ARE IN UPPER CASE, FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEM. I TOOK MINUTES AND THEY MAY NOT BE COMPLETE (OR CORRECT) PLEASE SEND ME CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS.- THANK YOU. RICH PEPPIN

  1. Open-8PM
  2. Introduction of those present and attendance list-SEE ATTACHED E-MAIL LIST
  3. Additions or corrections to the agenda- DISCUSSION OF EDUCATION IN ACOUSTICS LATER IN THE AGENDA
  4. Approval of last minutes- Berlin, 1999-APPROVED
  5. Announcements
    1. Berlin, 1999/03/18- Special and much thanks to Brigitte Shulte-Fortkamp, Elliott Berger, and Bob Hellweg.
    2. Anyone who wishes to make a brief announcement of an event or activity of interest may do so.-NONE
  6. Program planning- (Volunteer to head this? NONE FORTHCOMING. IF INTERESTED, PLEASE CONTACT R. Peppin. R. Peppin ACTED AS ORGANIZER FOR THIS MEETING.
    1. Atlanta, 2000/05/30-06/03 Atlanta Program organizers 2000/02/04-05 NO VOLUNTEERS. R. Peppin TO HANDLE (SUBSEQUENTLY, MARY PRINCE VOLUNTEERED TO BE TC NOISE REP).
      1. Noise and vibration exposure: R. McKinley- NO WORD ABOUT THIS. TENTATIVE OK.
      2. PERFORMANCE AND EVALUATION OF TEST ROOMS, JOINT WITH E/A (KEN CUNEFARE INTERESTED)
      3. Classroom acoustics: Joint with TCAA-TWO SESSIONS: D. LUBMAN, L. SUTHERLAND
      4. POSTER SESSION FOR STUDENTS' PAPERS- G.SIEBEIN TENTATIVE
      5. EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ON THE PERILS OF OVEREXPOSURE TO NOISE-D. RAICHEL, JOINT WITH EDUCATION IN ACOUSTICS
      6. JOINT TC NOISE AND NCAC RECEPTION
      7. NEW MEMBER RECEPTION
    2. Newport Beach, 2000/12/04-08 Program organizers Brigitte Shulte-Fortkamp, Rich Peppin, PAUL DONAVAN
      1. CONSTRUCTION MACHINERY: CURRENT NOISE LIMITS AND MEANS OF COMPLIANCE-D. RAICHEL
      2. Low frequency- Lou Sutherland (JOINT WITH INCE)
      3. Soundscapes: Brigitte Schulte-Fortkamp and Joe Pope (JOINT WITH INCE)
      4. Power Plants (with INCE) : Frank Brittain (JOINT WITH INCE)
      5. Noise standards - challenges to quiet products: Bob Hellweg (JOINT WITH INCE)
      6. Noise Standards: Paul Schomer (JOINT WITH INCE)
      7. Hearing Protection Standards: Elliott Berger
      8. Environmental noise focused on combined noise sources- B. Shulte-Fortkamp, Paul Schomer (JOINT WITH INCE)
      9. STUDENTS' PAPERS IN NOISE-G. MUELHAUSEN (JOINT WITH INCE)
      10. JOINT TCAA, TCN, AND NCAC RECEPTION
      11. NEW MEMBER RECEPTION
      12. INVITED TALK: HISTORY OF ASA'S AND INCE'S ROLE IN NOISE CONTROL –LEO BERANEK, JOINT WITH HISTORY AND ARCHIVES. (LETTER I SENT IS BELOW. HE ACCEPTED!)

        99-11-30
        Dear Leo,

        I hope you don't mind this form of communication for this invitation. If so, I'd be happy to send you a more formal letter.

        As a Member of the ASA History and Archives Committee, and as Chair of the ASA Technical Committee on Noise, I want to formally invite you to present an invited lecture on ASA's role in Noise Control at the Newport Beach meeting next winter. The title may be somewhat limiting, but perhaps you could intersperse the overall history of noise control with what you saw done or caused by, ASA and its members. The H&A committee wants to document ASA's contributions (through published papers, members' works, conferences, and maybe exhibitions) to the field. If you met people, worked with people, etc., as a result of ASA activities, that would be nice to document.

        I don't know about the logistics, I'll copy Henry Bass on this, concerning written paper, JASA article, etc. But I'll find out.

        It would be wonderful if you can accept. It is always a pleasure to hear you talk.

        Most cordially,

        Rich

    3. Chicago, 2001/06/04-08 Program organizers TBD
      1. QUIETING VEHICLES-M. ALEXANDER
      2. ENVIRONMENTAL NOISE- R. HELLWEG
      3. AIRCRAFT NOISE: FAR PART IV-N. TIMMERMAN
    4. Ft. Lauderdale, 2001 fall tentative
    5. Pittsburgh, 2001/06/03-07
    6. Cancun, 2002 fall tentative
    7. Location open, 2003 spring
    8. Austin, 2003/11/08-16
    9. New York, 2004 spring tentative
  7. Reports
    1. Ex-officio
      1. ASACOS-R. Peppin-REPORTED ON THE FOUR NEW NATIONALLY ADOPTED INTERNATIONAL STANDARDS ON Lw
      2. Medals and Awards-E.H. Berger-ASKED THAT ALL TCN MEMBERS CONSIDER POTENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR:
        1. Hemholtz-Raleigh Interdisciplinary Silver Medal
        2. GOLD MEDAL
        3. DISTINGUISHED SERVICE MEDAL
        4. Silver Medal-THE AUDIENCE RECOGNIZED L. ROYSTER FOR HIS RECEIPT OF THIS MEDAL.
      3. Membership-D.L. Johnson- THE AUDIENCE RECOGNIZED N. TIMMERMAN, A. BOWLES, AND R. HELLWEG FOR THEIR RECEIPT OF THIS HONOR.
      4. Associate Editors-M. Stinson-REPORTED THAT 25 MANUSCRIPTS RECEIVED SINCE Berlin (3/99). 12 UNDER FIRST REVIEW, 12 ACCEPTED, 6 REJECTED. FOR ARLO, THREE MANUSCRIPTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED AND THREE ACCEPTED SINCE BERLIN.
      5. L. BERANEK SUGGESTED THAT THERE WOULD BE A STRENGTHENING OF THE NOISE COMMUNITY IF NOISE PAPERS WERE PUT IN "NCEJ" TO HELP CONDENSE THE LOCATIONS OF THE REFERENCES.
      6. TC Noise representative to Long-Range Planning-N. Timmerman
    2. Technical Council-R. Peppin.
      1. P.SCHOMER REPORTED THAT THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR THE NOTION OF AFFILIATE STATUS, A LOWER COST BUT FEWER BENEFIT GRADE. THERE WAS GENERAL ACCEPTANCE. THE IDEA WAS THE "AFFILIATE" WOULD RECEIVE ALL ON-LINE INFORMATION BUT NO PRINTED MATERIAL.
      2. WE WERE ASKED TO SEND A STUDENT TO ATLANTA AS A STUDENT REPRESENTATIVE. THE PURPOSE WOULD BE TO GIVE STUDENT PERSPECTIVE ON ASA. HIS/HER COSTS WOULD BE PAID. QUESTIONS AROSE: ON CONTINUITY OF INPUT SINCE STUDENTS WOULD BE TRANSIENT, ON HOW TO CHOOSE ONE AMONG MANY, ETC. THREE EQUALLY ABLE CANDIDATES WERE SUGGESTED. WITH NO CRITERIA OR REAL KNOWLEDGE I LET THE DECISION SLIP. (I RECOMMND, SINCE CONTINUITY IS OUT ANYWAY, WE CHOOSE PEOPLE FROM THE AREA IN WHICH THE MEETING IS HELD.)
      3. DISCUSSION TO HOLD FEWER THAN TWO MEETING A YEAR. THERE WERE SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO DID NOT LIKE THE 2 X PER YEAR. SOME PREFERRED 1 X PER YEAR, OTHERS 1 X PER 18 MONTHS. I THINK IT WAS DECIDED TO KEEP AS IS, SINCE SO MANY MEETING VENUES ARE PLANNED ALREADY.
    3. Last meeting Berlin 1999/03/13-17 – comments from attendees and non-attendees- MOST FELT IT WAS SUCCESSFUL.
    4. This meeting: Columbus 1999/11/1-5 Program organizer: Ang Campanella –GROUP THANKED HIM FOR HIS EFFORTS. IN GENERAL, VENUE, ORGANIZATION, EXHIBITS, WERE GOOD. A/V WAS POOR IN SOME ROOMS
      1. Sessions
        1. Active noise control, sound quality, and noise control analysis
        2. Noise and FICAN- Preservation of natural quiet- PUT ON BY G. LUZ, MANY PEOPLE FELT THIS WAS THE BEST SESSION.
        3. Progress report …ASA's role in noise control
        4. Status of noise regulations
        5. Hearing protection
    5. Task force on classroom acoustics-Lubman & Brooks- (Written report please at or before TCN meeting)
    6. Progress report on ASA's role in Noise-Lubman- (Written report please at or before TCN meeting)
    7. Outstanding Paper by a Young Presenter-Stewart
    8. Criteria for meeting spaces-
  8. Other activities
    1. Initiatives (If your name is listed here, please provide at, or before Committee meeting, a written report showing the status of your initiative.)
      1. Yr. 1999 As of 99/10/01
        1. Young presenter award, 3 @ $250.00- N. Stewart (TC has my name mistakenly)
        2. Reception with NCAC and ASA- Columbus 1 @ $500.00- J. Pope
        3. Self-administered hearing test-D. Johnson
        4. Web page 1 @ $300.00 -M. Alexander: (He said he had no time for this.). THIS WAS TAKEN OVER BY LES BLOMBERG, ANG CAMPANELLA, BOB (IS THIS HELLWEG)?
      2. Yr-2000 As of 99/10/01
        1. Standards coordination meeting @ Newport beach $2,500 –P. Schomer
        2. Young presenter award, 3 @ $250.00- N. Stewart
        3. RECEPTION WITH NCAC AND ASA ATLANTA 1 @$500-JOE POPE IS THIS CORRECT????
        4. STUDENT RECEPTION 1 @ $300-RICH Peppin- IS THIS CORRECT???
      3. Proposed
        1. Coordinating group of all noise related societies: coordinate meetings, standards, member benefits- for discussion- R. Peppin THIS WAS NOT DISCUSSED
        2. Money to Noise Pollution Clearinghouse (NPC) for the purpose of building an on-line library in occupational noise for their website.- $2000, Alice Suter. THE TC VOTED TO SPEND $2000 ON THIS.
    2. Liaison
  9. Nominations for new members (Fall Meeting)
  10. Hot Topics suggested papers
  11. Tutorial ideas, lecturers. JOE POPE SOLICITED TUTORIAL TOPICS. THAT GAINING MOST INTEREST WAS "WAVELETS."
  12. New business
    1. INCE and ASA TC Noise- Is there a problem? Undue influence? Conflict of interest? I (RICH Peppin) BROUGHT THIS UP BECAUSE HE HEARD SEVERAL COMMENTS THAT INCE WAS TOO INVOLVED IN TC NOISE. LEO BERANEK INDICATED WHY INCE WAS FORMED. GEORGE MALING DISCUSSED SUCCESS OF COSPONSORED MEETINGS (WHICH WERE ENDORSED BY TC NOISE). LARRY ROYSTER EXPRESSED CONCERN OF UNDUE INFLUENCE IN INCE AND LACK OF SESSIONS THAT HE FELT OF INTEREST. RICH Peppin RESPONDED THAT ALL SESSIONS WERE INITIATED BY ATTENDEES IN THE MEETING. NONE CAME FROM OUTSIDE AND THE SUBJECTS OF THE MEETING CAME FROM WHOMEVER WANTED TO ORGANIZE A SESSION, IRRESPECTIVE OF AFFILIATION. SUBSEQUENT TO THE MEETING LARRY ROYSTER SEND ME A LETTER, REQUESTING ASA SEND TO ALL TC NOISE MEMBERS. I FORWARDED THE LETTER TO ASA FOR DISTRIBUTION BUT ASA FELT IT WAS INAPPROPRIATE TO SEND OUT.
    2. Nominations and future election: CHAIRS ARE ELECTED EVERY THREE YEARS. CHAIR MAY SERVE ONE CONSECUTIVE TERM. ALL COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND ALL WHO ATTEND FALL MEETING GET BALLOTS. NOMINATING COMMITTEE FORMED BY FORMER CHAIRS WHO SELECT TWO OR MORE CANDIDATES. NOMINATING COMMITTEE (POPE, TICHY, MARSH) ARE NOTIFIED TO PICK A SLATE.
    3. Suggestions from the floor for new ideas
  13. Old business
    1. Web Page presentation (Les Blomberg: LES PRESENTED SUGGESTIONS ON DEVELOPING WEB PAGE FOR TC NOISE. ALL AGREED HE SHOULD AND TC APPROVED $500 FROM TC TECHNICAL INITIATIVE. (COMMENTS? IS THIS CORRECT?)
  14. Next meeting IN ATLANTA. DAY TO BE DETERMINED
  15. Adjourn

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